Experts on Vexing Vaccination Challenges and Beating the Pandemic

Kata Chillag, Janelle White, Sallie Permar, James Crowe, Dave Wessner on a Zoom Webinar

Kata Chillag, Hamilton McKay Professor in Biosciences and Human Health, 小优视频; Janelle White, M.D., Medical Director of Community Health, Atrium Health; Sallie Permar 鈥97, M.D., Chair of the Department of Pediatrics, Weill Cornell Medicine; James Crowe 鈥83, Director of the Vanderbilt Vaccine Center, Vanderbilt University; Dave Wessner, Professor of Biology, 小优视频

The casualties of the pandemic extend beyond the half-million tragic deaths and millions of COVID cases.

小优视频 convened a group of experts across disciplines to discuss the U.S. COVID-19 vaccine rollout and answer questions about the safety and efficacy of the new drugs that offer hope for a way out of the pandemic.

Large swaths of the public have lost trust in medicine, government, science and each other.

The recent dashboard numbers are encouraging. Vaccinations are up. Cases are down. But five experts in public health and immunology gathered by 小优视频 and this week offered not a 鈥淒oom Zoom,鈥 but a wider and longer view of the country鈥檚 vaccination situation, including a slew of accompanying and unmet challenges.

They pointed to damage beyond the terrible human toll. The pandemic exacerbated inequality, mainstreamed misinformation and spotlighted the struggle of adapting to a challenge about which we know very little, said Kata Chillag, chair of 小优视频鈥檚 new public health academic department and the event鈥檚 moderator.

a panelist and a pediatrician and medical director of community health for Atrium, often is asked whether COVID vaccines can be trusted.

鈥淭hat鈥檚 something I hear a lot,鈥 said White, 鈥減articularly in our marginalized, underrepresented minority communities.鈥

The speed of vaccine development is a marvel to some, and a source of concern for others.

鈥淭he process has been fast,鈥 said Dave Wessnerbiology professor at 小优视频, 鈥渂ut I don't think it鈥檚 been rushed. Those are two different things.鈥

The time from discovery to vaccine was 鈥渢he fastest in history,鈥 said , director of the Vanderbilt Vaccine Center and a 1983 graduate of 小优视频. 

The question he hears is: What shortcuts were taken?

鈥淎nd the answer to that is there were no shortcuts,鈥 he said. 鈥淭he time was compressed. But all of the same stuff was done as would normally be done. And you can measure that by how much money was spent. You can spend the same amount of money over 10 years, or you can spend it all in four months, but the actual steps that would normally be taken were all taken.鈥

The vaccine technology draws questions and skepticism because it sounds new, panelists said. The vaccines use mRNA, genetic material that delivers instructions for the body to make proteins.

鈥淚t actually was not that new,鈥 said , 小优视频 class of 1997 and chair of the department of pediatrics at Weill Cornell Medicine. 鈥淔or at least a decade or so, the mRNA technology has been tested for things like cancer therapy. This was not a brand new technology, but the timing was exactly right. Enough development had gone on with the mRNA platform that it was ready.鈥

Critical Threshold

Permar estimates that 80 percent of the population will need to be immune to the virus that causes COVID-19 for herd immunity to take effect.

Distrust in the vaccine makes reaching that crucial threshold very difficult.

National polls show 30 to 40 percent of Americans unwilling to get a COVID vaccine. A North Carolina poll in December showed 20 percent unwilling and another 40 percent reluctant.

鈥淚f we have a situation where 50 percent of the people for whatever reason are reluctant to get to the vaccine,鈥 Wessner said, 鈥渨e鈥檙e never getting to that herd immunity status.鈥

A continuing threat to vaccine adoption is social media, where falsehoods spread as fast as the virus.

鈥淒oes mRNA sterilize you? No,鈥 said Crowe, reciting from the stream of online conspiracy theories. 鈥淎re there little chips in these things? No, there are not. Does this modify your DNA? No possible way. These kind of crazy ideas are gripping the minds of millions, maybe tens of millions or hundreds of millions of people. And there鈥檚 no basis in fact.鈥

The COVID-19 threat will fade, Crowe said. And decisions are needed now鈥攚hile the memory is fresh鈥攁bout how the nation will prepare for the next pandemic. Because there will be another.

鈥淲e already know the sequences of coronaviruses that could do the exact same thing, again,鈥 he said. 鈥淲e know that right now, today. And the question is: Do we have the political will as a people to tell our legislators: We want to invest our tax dollars and effort in looking forward, rather than saying, 鈥業 hope this all goes away.鈥欌

The virus data seem to be improving, but all five experts agreed that the public health mitigation strategies in place鈥攕ocial distancing, masks, hand-washing鈥攁re still essential.

No one should see a vaccine as a magic bullet that eliminates the need for prevention and safety measures, White said: 鈥淲e don鈥檛 want there to be the thought that we can take our foot off the gas.鈥